Friday nights Holland co-hosted a genre-oriented podcast, The Soothsayers of Yelm. A peer, Gerry Cope, another would-be science fiction writer earning a living as a lit instructor, had roped Holland into the gig. Gerry lived in Minnesota. One week while Holland was downed by flu Satchel sat in as co-host. Weirdly, comments for that episode kept rolling on in. Almost all related to how young and sweet and juicy Satchel looked and sounded. Apparently, Pedobears were flush in genreland.